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Not sure if it's just my machine or if there's some odd fueling going on but I'm having a strange issue starting. It will fire and then immediately die. It's done this in various temperatures ranging from 45-70f and it's done it after having just been on it and trying to start it 30 minutes later as well as sitting for hours. If I fire it up and give it throttle for a while then it's ok. Anyone else having issues? I have been searching around but there's not a lot of info about this bike yet. I'll be checking with the dealer about it but just seeing if anyone else has had this issue.
 

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is there any consistent scenario your 899 is behaving like this? Is it more noticeable after you've ridden, on cold starts etc...

Are there any noticeable niggles once it gets idling??
 

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Maybe it is the charcoal canister like the 1199?
 
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Maybe it is the charcoal canister like the 1199?

Update: It seems to only happen when I use the key to shut it off instead of the kill switch. I know some bike manufacturers specify in the owners manual what they want you to do. For example, for some reason my Honda CBR owners manual specifically said to turn the engine off with the key and to only use the kill switch in an emergency. Being already sensitive to that, I checked the owners manual the day I got the 899. It specifically states to turn off the engine by turning the key to the off position. For some reason, I've been having these starting issues lately, so I tried using the kill switch and the problem does not occur. Unusual.
 

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is there any consistent scenario your 899 is behaving like this? Is it more noticeable after you've ridden, on cold starts etc...

Are there any noticeable niggles once it gets idling??
No constant scenario, and once it gets idling it runs fine. I suspect it may be something in the mapping, being ride by wire. I wouldn't be surprised if some revised mapping comes along from Ducati at some point. The throttle is a bit jumpy at low RPMs when coming off closed throttle at this point as well.
 

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Interesting... I know some people make it a habit of utilizing the kill swicth but not me. never knew it would ever be an isssue though to tell you the truth. You might have to just crack the throttle a hair for it to start as some of my friends had a similar issue for starting.

I wouldn't be surprised if the maps get updated.
 

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Interesting... I know some people make it a habit of utilizing the kill swicth but not me. never knew it would ever be an isssue though to tell you the truth. You might have to just crack the throttle a hair for it to start as some of my friends had a similar issue for starting.

I wouldn't be surprised if the maps get updated.
I'm sure it will. My friend has a 2013 Hyper with the new 821 engine and they just released new maps for it. He was having some startup and low RPM fueling issues too, and they fixed it.
 

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I'm sure it will. My friend has a 2013 Hyper with the new 821 engine and they just released new maps for it. He was having some startup and low RPM fueling issues too, and they fixed it.
Yes, all the Ride by wire is that way. Absolutely no throttle when you try to start it. Once she fires you can use some if it is stumbling a bit.

If it dies, or fails to start after it first burps, you need to cycle the key again. There is an immobilizer in the key that pairs with the dash/Ecu and it will turn over and over, and eventually might start. But if u turn the key on and off a few times, usually fires up no prob.

What kind of gas do you use?

Also, remember you want to get the bike hot if you start it. Don't really want to just start it in the garage when ur drinking beer with ur buddies. These baby's run rich at an idle, hence the secondary air system that helps burn the excess. If you don't get it hot you can damage the cat or fowl a plug.

All Duc's have their own personality, gotta find her sweet spot.
 

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Evolution how is your bike now is it ok? Have you anymore issues with it since? Hope everything is ok with it and not causing any problems for you.
 

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Evolution how is your bike now is it ok? Have you anymore issues with it since? Hope everything is ok with it and not causing any problems for you.
It hasn't happened since. I'm bringing it in for the 600 mile service around December 20th, and I'll mention it to them, but it seems to be a non issue now.
 

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I had that issue today, as I was trying to leave the dealer from the 600 mile service. Happened once before also. Little throttle and she got going.

I'm going to remove the charcoal canister this weekend if I get some free time.

I use only 91, as that's the highest generally available here in the US.
 

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I had that issue today, as I was trying to leave the dealer from the 600 mile service. Happened once before also. Little throttle and she got going.

I'm going to remove the charcoal canister this weekend if I get some free time.

I use only 91, as that's the highest generally available here in the US.
91? I've only put 93 in my car (my Evo 8 MR is specifically tuned for 93) and the bike. Are you in Cali? In Texas and GA, just about every station has 93.
 

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91? I've only put 93 in my car (my Evo 8 MR is specifically tuned for 93) and the bike. Are you in Cali? In Texas and GA, just about every station has 93.
Pcitures of your EVO 8 please! ;)
 

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there definately isn't enough info on the 899 to diagnose it

you could look at 1199 info

best bet is to take it back to the dealer and see if you can replicate it.
 

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Pcitures of your EVO 8 please! ;)
The only one I have on this computer is this one. I just got it repainted about 5 months ago and here's the one they took right after it left the shop. I'll take some more. It's a 2005 MR Edition that I picked up new in 05. It's got about 58k miles on it and has some minor mods. Turbo back 3 inch AMS exaust, Mellon tuned, ACT clutch, and of course some minor stuff (EBC pads, SS braided brake/clutch lines, intake, JDM Evo 9 BOV, 255 lph fuel pump, stuff like that). Pushing 20.5 PSI.
 

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Dollars over donuts it is the charcoal can. I'm ripping mine out ASAP.
 

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Charcoal can what is this?
Its an emmissions control device on the lower right side of the bike towards the front of the engine. It can contribute to hard starting. Many 1199 owners remove them, you can search google for pics/videos of how it's done. I'm still on the fence with this one, but I might end up doing it.
 
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