[snake shake]

MotoUSA put together a supermid shootout. I don't think y'all are going to like the results. Panner comes in 4th of 4.

Pros
Ripping top-end
Prime suspension and chassis balance
Agile and precise

Cons
Narrow powerband keeps you on the gears
Heavy

Check out the full shootout, its a long one...2014 Light-Heavyweight Supersport Shootout - Motorcycle USA

 

[Dynasty]

That MV murdered it.

That said, this doesn't bother me. I have a track bike that would walk any of these set ups, so I just look at my 899 as my fun street toy.

 

[rjjr]

Interesting comparison. MCN had the Panigale in front of the GSXR. This is the first time I've heard about a narrow power band and my seat of the pants feel says differently.

 

[cj899]

Boommm..!! You just broke my heart..LOL

 

[92GTA]

I'd never buy a **** ugly MV anyway lol

 

[adeyrob]

Saw the MV a couple of weeks back at Manchester motorcycle show, looks wise not too bad, but IMO doesn't come close to the 899 in the looks department.

 

[Evolution]

I can't remember the last time I saw a review from these guys that made any sense at all. I place no value in anything they come up with. Once Fast Bikes, Bike, and Performance Bikes start posting comparisons I'll pay attention.

 

[devill66]

I saw another test of the MV F3 800 and it was not that great at shifting (missed sometimes) and the traction control was unusable on track they sayed. They still seem to have an issue regarding the throttle response...
So i am not sad for not getting the MV...

 

[Richie#20]

At the first look the result is disappointing. A totally subjective view as the rider rating in the comparision is. The thing is: Who cares about inline fours? They never interested me, so the only machine to mention is the MV.

I test rode the F3 675 and 800 before buying the 899. Both were very interessting, cool design, single swingarm, great pipes and sound, easy handling, but again they are no twins. And there are also some lows: The dashboard is hard to read and - what is the main issue - the horrible throttle response. MV has problems to pick up the pieces and is publishing more ECU updates than Bill Gates do for windows.

And a word to the narrow power band: That is the normal characteristic of the midrange Ducs (748, 749, 848). This effect here is least because of the 899 capacity advantage. In addition you can spend some money by a dyno run, a cylinder selective adjustment is the best method. After this the lack of power is eliminated.

In the january issue of the german PS magazine there is also a comparision to the GSX-R and here - like MCN - the winner is the 899. They measured 142 hp at 10700 revs, so I´m not sure, why here only 130 hp are on the clock ...

 

[92GTA]

In the january issue of the german PS magazine there is also a comparision to the GSX-R and here - like MCN - the winner is the 899. They measured 142 hp at 10700 revs, so I´m not sure, why here only 130 hp are on the clock ...

Difficult to answer without knowing the exact mileage of each bike at the time of the dyno, but I suspect the higher dyno number had many more miles and was fully broken in. Of course fuel and altitude are factors, plus even more so the dyno. Were both dyno the same make/model? When were they last serviced and calibrated? All of this makes a difference.

 

[devill66]

Dyno,s are different lots of times. Go to 3 tuners and you get 3 readings. It is wheel power with a calculated percentage of loss in transmission. Added together is power on the crank...

 

[Mubbles]

I personally can't compare the bikes, but every review I read/seen has said the 899 is the best , the most complete sports bike there is.
So it seems strange the this review didn't rate the 899( or rate it as highly as the other bikes)

 

[ManofManyGTs]

Just posted a video that had not so great things to say about our little Pani: http://www.899panigale.org/forum/89...wo-wheels-899-vs-mv-800-review.html#post30498

 

[Sydneydude]

I am not put off buying the 899, because it finished 4th.
The only cons were:

Could be lighter (fit the termi kit and lightweight alternator kit problem solved)
Narrow powerband ( 1199 is acknowledged as having a narrow powerband)

Pros:
Ripping fast top end power
Agile and precise
Excellent chassis and balance

The review was based on 1 particular track review.
I think for most people that ride on the street it will be a blast!!

Cheers

Armando

 

[ManofManyGTs]

I also am confused because they nay-say about the hugely "narrow" power band, yet the dyno graphs that they themselves posted clearly show that the 899 has more HP AND torque at every RPM over the competitors.

How is that possible??

 

[jumpman]

On Two Wheels and MotoUSA always have a different style of preference and biasness towards their reviews.

 

[rjjr]

Maybe the're confusing the quick revving with a narrow power band.

 

[psyclone]

Or maybe they are jaded journos spoiled by 200+ hp, 400lb liter bikes. These razor-edge reviews in controlled environments (the racetrack) are far and away from the reality most of us live day to day. Riding the back roads, the canyons and mountain passes, with an occasional track day or commute in between. Take their advice with a grain (or a shaker) of salt.

Maybe the're confusing the quick revving with a narrow power band.

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[adeyrob]

I can't remember the last time I saw a review from these guys that made any sense at all. I place no value in anything they come up with. Once Fast Bikes, Bike, and Performance Bikes start posting comparisons I'll pay attention.

Agree totally, let's wait and see what the top mags say when they get to review and run comparisons, as far as I'm concerned though I've still chosen what could well end up as sportsbike of the year....... And love it more every time I look at it.

 

[Microgale]

I don't understand the comments on no low end and mid range in this review given that the torque and power curves they published show it has the highest torque from 4000 rpm upwards.

Have a look at this link in the article.
Motorcycle Videos - 2014 Ducati 899 Panigale - Light-Heavyweight Supersport Shootout - Motorcycle USA

I am totally confused by their comments.