[Melly_mel]

Hey guys just got my new 899 panigale last week. On the way home from the dealer I notice a high amount of heat coming from the exhaust right under the seat making my theighs really hot. Is this normal?

 

[Mubbles]

Yes , your right above the exhaust , I had a very hot bum, the other day, I was in traffic but the outside temperture was 6 degrees.
It's going to be awful during the summer , if you get caught in traffic.
I have an idea , which I might try , I use insulation mats in my job, I'm thinking about getting one made to fit over the exhaust cover

 

[899Rider]

@Melly_mel

This is a good topic to cover as I have noticed a couple of you mentioning this heat issue. A good way to deal with thi sis to take off the heat shield around the exhaust. stick some heat reflective and resistant tape on the inside of the shield and wrap the exhaust with some heat wrap. And see how it goes from there. On my friend's R6 that is how we took care of the heat problem.

 

[899Rider]

Maybe if one of you guys can get a picture or video of the shield off that would help every diagnose the problem.

 

[899Rider]

Yes , your right above the exhaust , I had a very hot bum, the other day, I was in traffic but the outside temperture was 6 degrees.
It's going to be awful during the summer , if you get caught in traffic.
I have an idea , which I might try , I use insulation mats in my job, I'm thinking about getting one made to fit over the exhaust cover

If you end up trying that out let us know if it worked or what differences it made.

 

[Esrever]

It's a built in seat warmer for the winter, a free feature.

Putting insulators and such in the exhaust pipe isn't going to cause something to overheat, is it? That would be the one thing I am afraid of.

 

[Melly_mel]

Thanks guys just wondering if people had the same amount of heat coming from there exhaust. I'm probably going to use some kind of exhaust wrap.

 

[draggin]

What were you riding before this? That might explain why this is alarming to you.

 

[899Rider]

Thanks guys just wondering if people had the same amount of heat coming from there exhaust. I'm probably going to use some kind of exhaust wrap.

In most case that is the best way to contain the heat from spreading out. You should try out the exhaust wrap and see how it goes.

Most guys would wrap the pip area that is exposed so their leg doesn't get burned.

These wraps are usually under $50

And a roll of heat reflective tape

under $20

 

[snake shake]

be careful with wrapping your exhaust, realistically a wrap insulates the pipes so exhaust gases stay hotter and move faster, this will improve performance on a tuned bike but performance gains are non existent in stock configuration.

I know your question was about heat...

Then DEFINITELY keep in mind most manufacturers will void your warranty immediately if you wrap your exhaust, check it out with Ducati or your dealer to be safe.

The problem is a wrap will trap moisture and won't let the pipes dry out, predict the results of that.... On a stainless system moisture and rust issues don't exist in the same way, but you still introduce excess heat into the exhaust which will cause them to crack and age prematurely...

 

[Dynasty]

be careful with wrapping your exhaust, realistically a wrap insulates the pipes so exhaust gases stay hotter and move faster, this will improve performance on a tuned bike but performance gains are non existent in stock configuration.

I know your question was about heat...

Then DEFINITELY keep in mind most manufacturers will void your warranty immediately if you wrap your exhaust, check it out with Ducati or your dealer to be safe.

The problem is a wrap will trap moisture and won't let the pipes dry out, predict the results of that.... On a stainless system moisture and rust issues don't exist in the same way, but you still introduce excess heat into the exhaust which will cause them to crack and age prematurely...

Plus, law of thermodynamics will tell you that the heat needs to go somewhere. It doesn't just disappear with a wrap. It is simply transported somewhere else on the bike, and perhaps a part that wasn't designed to operate at that temperature.

 

[899Rider]

be careful with wrapping your exhaust, realistically a wrap insulates the pipes so exhaust gases stay hotter and move faster, this will improve performance on a tuned bike but performance gains are non existent in stock configuration.

I know your question was about heat...

Then DEFINITELY keep in mind most manufacturers will void your warranty immediately if you wrap your exhaust, check it out with Ducati or your dealer to be safe.

The problem is a wrap will trap moisture and won't let the pipes dry out, predict the results of that.... On a stainless system moisture and rust issues don't exist in the same way, but you still introduce excess heat into the exhaust which will cause them to crack and age prematurely...

Interesting... The way I look at it is that the wrap will be a barrier for heat in unwanted areas.

I have two friends which have brand new bike under warranty both have their exhaust piping wrapped and visit the dealer for maintainence on a regular basis. Nothing mentioned about voiding the warranty.

As for the moisture build up I forgot to mention that after wrapping it is suggested to spray a water proof silicone to keep the water out.

 

[Evolution]

When I first rode it I thought about maybe putting some heat reflective tape on the underside of the seat. It was very noticeable because my other bike had almost no heat under the seat (despite having undertail exhaust). Honestly though, the more I ride the less it bothers me.

 

[899Rider]

Sounds like to me you have got use to the heat. I guess the initial impression is that it does give off heat comapred to other bikes. and for some who have never had to dealt with the issue would be easily bothered.

 

[Evolution]

Here's the bike I sold to get the 899. Even with the undertail and the removal of the stock heatshield on the CBR, the 899 is still much hotter.

 

[rjjr]

I talked to my dealer today about the Termi exhaust and he said without the cats the bike will run cooler. I don't think I'd be too worried about wrapping the pipe under that scenario.

 

[Ducato]

So that's just great, you shell out $17k and you already have to deal with this serious issue and spend time/money on fixing it. And the pegs too right? Unacceptable.

I'll skip this one until the heat problem is resolved before I take it out the door,really I'm not buying this desirable bike because of this, not riding an oven in Los Angeles.

 

[Evolution]

So that's just great, you shell out $17k and you already have to deal with this serious issue and spend time/money on fixing it. And the pegs too right? Unacceptable.

I'll skip this one until the heat problem is resolved before I take it out the door,really I'm not buying this desirable bike because of this, not riding an oven in Los Angeles.

Well the heat issue won't be "resolved" per se because this is common to all Panigale models. The heat issues of the 1199 have been well documented for almost three years now. I wouldn't exactly call it a serious issue as it really doesn't affect the ride and is more of a minor annoyance. All superbikes have some level of compromise attached to them. Some have wrist killing ergos, some have grabby clutches, some have poor wind protection from the fairings, etc. The 899 is a great package, and is leaps and bounds better than any other bike I've been on.

As for the pegs, Ducati has been putting pegs that don't grip very well on bikes for a long time. The previous generation bikes were the same way (I actually think the pegs were worse on the 1198). This is easily fixed and most people end up going with adjustable sets at some point. If you are willing to let these minor complaints drive you away from experiencing this bike, then I feel bad for you. It's the most fun I've ever had on two wheels. Ducatis are not perfect, and they never have been. But they are exciting and amazing functional works of art that truly make you happy when you ride them. My CBR was just a bike to me. A thing, an object. My Duc is so much more.

 

[Ducato]

Nice PR...

Heat right under your butt is of major concern not a minor annoyance. Pegs might fit under the latter but then again. Anyway just my choice at this time, it's sad because I was getting close to pull the trigger and purchase that beauty.

 

[Evolution]

Nice PR...

Heat right under your butt is of major concern not a minor annoyance. Pegs might fit under the latter but then again. Anyway just my choice at this time, it's sad because I was getting close to pull the trigger and purchase that beauty.

It's not PR, it's the truth. I'm not a Ducati employee, I'm a soldier in the US Army and have no interest in deceiving you. Check out the 1199 forums. You might see people talk about the flaws of these bikes, but try and find someone who regrets buying one. I haven't met one so far. Certainly none of the 899 owners regret it so far. I'm not here to advertise for Ducati, I'm here because I love this bike. At least test ride one. Then if you don't like it, get something else...if you can find another bike with 148hp and 73ftlbs of tq that weighs 372lbs and has a full electronics package with RBW,EBC,TC, quickshifter, adjustable riding modes and power delivery, with some brembo monoblocs and ABS. I'm not aware of another package on the market that brings what this bike brings to the table, but most new bikes are so good these days I'm sure you'll find something you like.

EDIT - correction, the only other bike that brings more to the table is the Aprilia RSV4R, and that bike is a great value for one of the best packages on the planet. I was scared away by the lack of a dealer network, low parts availability, and maintenance issues popping up on the Aprilia forums. It sure does seem like a great deal though.