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Having removed the rear wheel to change a tyre I could not believe the weight of the wheel. I had a Kawasaki ZX10r wheel for comparison and found the 899 wheel weighed a full 3kgs heavier. Ducati wheel weighed 9kg ZX10r wheel weighed 6kg. This is extremely disappointing for a quality sports bike and goes some way to explaining why the bike is so heavy.
 

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I'm planning on forged aluminum (gold color) or CF wheels personally. Should cut the weight nearly 50%.

I also don't know that I would say the 899 is "so heavy" compared to other sport bikes. Un-sprung weight and rotational mass sure could use a diet tho!
 

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No way a production bike is going to come with CF wheels on it, too fragile and it would be a warranty nightmare for the manufacturer. Forged Magnesium, like comes on the 1199 Superleggera is about as good as it gets, but they're $3500 a set.
 

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I guess next thing will be a Panigale 899S..... will have lighter wheels and Ohlins.....
We'll see, but Ducati has already said they aren't doing one.

The 848 never came in an S or R and the Corse SE didn't get lightweight wheels, and still has a Showa fork (with a generic off the shelf Ohlins shock that most reviewers said was too harsh). Not sure why people are thinking they will do an 899S.
 

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We'll see, but Ducati has already said they aren't doing one.
Marketing.... do you think they would have guessed this sale volume at this time? Litre bikes will be sold less and the mid class is up coming...... who needs 200 plus HP? This was a bulls eye..... we will see
 

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Screw that, let's go for 899R with mag wheels, Ohlins NIX forks and TTX shock, Ti rods with a superlight polished crank, all Ti valves, revs to 13,500 rpm, light subframe, etc. I'd be first in line to buy one!
Yeah nice, for service to....lot,s of titanium. Not for me on a trackbike anyway.... Could have gone with de 999R on track but i have a reason i didnt do that. .
 

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No way a production bike is going to come with CF wheels on it, too fragile and it would be a warranty nightmare for the manufacturer. Forged Magnesium, like comes on the 1199 Superleggera is about as good as it gets, but they're $3500 a set.
No reason for forged aluminium to be so heavy though. If Kawasaki can make a rear wheel weighing 6kg for a 200bhp Superbike then so can Ducati.
 

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No reason for forged aluminium to be so heavy though. If Kawasaki can make a rear wheel weighing 6kg for a 200bhp Superbike then so can Ducati.
The stock 899 wheels are not forged aluminum, they're regular cast aluminum. if they were forged they'd be 4 or 5 lbs. lighter for the pair, just like the wheels on the 1199 vs. the 1199S.
 

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Screw that, let's go for 899R with mag wheels, Ohlins NIX forks and TTX shock, Ti rods with a superlight polished crank, all Ti valves, revs to 13,500 rpm, light subframe, etc. I'd be first in line to buy one!

I agree. I'll trade mine in right off the bat!!!
 

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They also said they wouldn't make an 848 Streetfighter.
When did they say that? And the point remains, there is no S or R 848. They haven't made an R version of bikes they don't intend to race before and there is little reason to assume they will now.
 

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They also said they wouldn't make an 848 Streetfighter.

Does anyone know the weight difference between the wheels of the 848 EVO compared to the 899?
Front probably very similar. No telling with the rear because 848 has no hub so bound to be lighter.
 

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It's got to be a cost thing, Ducati have brought the 899 out at a reasonable price to compete with the Jap litter bikes, OK so they may have lighter wheels, but do they look as good.....

Ducati could of gone with the lighter Mag wheels, but at what cost, likewise, they could have fitted Ohlins. The price would just go up and up. These are options that could be added by owners as after market options if so desired. the current configuration of the 899 has been set making the base line 899 affordable to a much wider rider base, bringing more people to the brand.
 

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Sooooo...

Any lighter aftermarket WHEELS available? If I end up choosing white the first thing to go will be the red wheels.
 

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It's got to be a cost thing, Ducati have brought the 899 out at a reasonable price to compete with the Jap litter bikes, OK so they may have lighter wheels, but do they look as good.....

Ducati could of gone with the lighter Mag wheels, but at what cost, likewise, they could have fitted Ohlins. The price would just go up and up. These are options that could be added by owners as after market options if so desired. the current configuration of the 899 has been set making the base line 899 affordable to a much wider rider base, bringing more people to the brand.
Not to mention you would be encroaching on 1199 territory. You should have sprung the additional $3000+ for the 1199 base, if you wanted the "goodies".
 

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No way a production bike is going to come with CF wheels on it, too fragile and it would be a warranty nightmare for the manufacturer. Forged Magnesium, like comes on the 1199 Superleggera is about as good as it gets, but they're $3500 a set.

Agreed ....but, I have Magnesium wheels on my Frankecati.....the manufacturer's instructions are that these are for race use only and should be stripped and cracked tested periodically. Last time I did this I had to Soda blast the wheels and then re-chromate them before painting them again.

Magnesium is very prone to corrosion and corrosion can 'worm hole' unseen through the wheels. Any stone chips in the paint service must be addressed quickly.

Carbon fibre is a lot better option for road wheels than magnesium as it doesn't corrode and is less prone to fracturing and weight for weight probably stronger and safer than forged alloy wheels, but manufacture is expensive.

Forged aluminium is very light compared to cast alloy wheels (not as light as carbon) corrosion resistant and less expensive than carbon.
 
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