Ducati 899 Panigale vs 848 EVO

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draggin

Discussion Starter · Oct 25, 2013

Well its a matter of time before someone compares the 899 to the 848.

Even though the 899 is the 1199s little brother. In some ways the 899 is the 848s successor.

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S.I.U.

· #2 · Oct 25, 2013

Comparing the two is needed. Some people are probably debating if they should buy a new 899 or save some money off of the initial costs and buy a used 848. I'm a new tech buff and love the 1199 but just can't spend that much, to me, the 899 is perfect. 848 is just a bit too old for me.

draggin

Discussion Starter · #3 · Nov 1, 2013

It would be good to see how the 899 compares to the 848 in terms of handling and performance.

Heizenberg

· #4 · Nov 1, 2013

This is all the specs from the Ducati Canada website on the Streetfighter 848.

Engine
Type: L-Twin cylinder, 4 valve per cylinder Desmodromic, liquid cooled
Displacement: 849cc
Bore x Stroke: 94x61,2mm
Compression ratio: 13.2:1
▂Power132hp (97kW) @ 10.000rpm
▂Torque93.5 Nm (69 lb-ft) @ 9,500 rpm
Technical data referring to power and torque was measured on an engine test stand at Ducati.
Fuel injection: Marelli electronic fuel injection, elliptical throttle bodies
Exhaust: Lightweight 2-1-2 system with catalytic converter and two lambda probes. Twin stainless steel mufflers

Transmission

Gearbox: 6 speed
Primary drive: Straight cut gears, Ratio 1.84:1
Ratio: 1=37/15 2=30/17 3=28/20 4=26/22 5=24/23 6=23/24
Final drive: Chain; Front sprocket 15; Rear sprocket 42
Clutch: Wet multiplate with hydraulic control

Chassis

Frame: Tubular steel Trellis frame in ALS 450
Front suspension: Marzocchi 43mm fully adjustable usd forks
Front whee: l10-spoke in light alloy 3.50 x 17
Front Tyre: Pirelli Diablo Corsa 120/70 ZR17
Rear suspension: Progressive linkage with fully adjustable monoshock. Aluminium single-sided swingarm
Rear wheel: 10-spoke light alloy 5.50 x 17
Rear tyre: Pirelli Diablo Corsa 180/60 ZR17
Front wheel travel: 127mm (5in)
Rear wheel travel: 127mm (5in)
Front brake: 2 x 320mm semi-floating discs, radially mounted Brembo callipers 4-piston, 2-pad
Rear brake: 245mm disc, 2-piston calliper
Instrumentation: Digital unit with displays for: Speedometer, rev counter, lap times, time, air temp, coolant temp, battery voltage, A & B trips, fuel reserve trip, DTC status and level selected (if activated) scheduled maintenance. Warning lights for: Neutral, turn signals, high-beam, rev-limit, DTC intervention, oil pressure, fuel reserve. Plus: Immobilizer system and management of DTC and DDA

Dimensions and weight

Dry weight:169kg (373lb)
Weight data refers to the dry weight of the motorcycle without battery, lubricants and coolants for liquid-cooled models.
Wet weight (KERB): 199kg (439lb)
Kerb weights indicate total bike weight with all operating consumable liquids and a fuel tank filled to 90% of capacity (as per EC standard 93/93).
Seat height: 840mm (33in)
Wheelbase: 1475mm (58.1 in)
Rake: 24,5°
Trail: 103mm (4.05in)
Fuel tank capacity: 16,5 l - 4.4 gallon (US)
Number of seats: Dual seat

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Heizenberg

· #5 · Nov 3, 2013

The 848 looks like it is leaning forward so much. I'd like to see someone on the bike to get an idea of what the riding position is like.

draggin

Discussion Starter · #6 · Nov 4, 2013

I was referring to the 848 EVO. Not the streetfighter.

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rjjr

· #7 · Nov 5, 2013

Heizenberg said:
The 848 looks like it is leaning forward so much. I'd like to see someone on the bike to get an idea of what the riding position is like.

The forward lean on the 848 for a 6' tall person is 47 degrees. For the same size rider on the 899 the lean is 43 degrees.

Motorcycle Ergonomics

Cool little website which shows rider positions.

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draggin

Discussion Starter · #8 · Nov 5, 2013

not a huge difference. but good to see its not as aggressive since some complained about the 848 being unergo

S.I.U.

· #9 · Nov 5, 2013

rjjr said:
The forward lean on the 848 for a 6' tall person is 47 degrees. For the same size rider on the 899 the lean is 43 degrees.

Motorcycle Ergonomics

Cool little website which shows rider positions.

Sitting on both the difference will be noticeable. Got to love that the 899 has a more up-right seating position. Being comfortable as you can is key.

Talus

· #10 · Nov 25, 2013

For me, it's hard to say goodbye to the trellis frame. It's so iconic. But, if I rode the two back to back to make a decision as a buyer, ergos and drivability would take precedence over looks..because both the 848 and 899 are supermodels.

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LeeDucati

· #11 · Nov 25, 2013

I loved my 848evo for the two years I had it until September 18th a young lady in a fiat 500 hit me from behind while I was waiting to turn right and wrote it off !
But as they say , every cloud has a silver lining . Her insurance company paid out rapidly and I am now the owner of a red 899.
The 899 feels totally different , lighter , lower center of gravity , more softly sprung and just all round a much easier , more forgiving package .
I must agree , the loss of the trellis and single sided swing arm is a major change for the bike but is far out weighed by the riding experience and let's be honest , it's not exactly ugly!
So buy and enjoy , regret free and still have a place for the old Evo!

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LeeDucati

· #12 · Nov 26, 2013

IMG_0604[1] | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
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848evo before the crash

SouthrnSmkd

· #13 · Nov 26, 2013

LeeDucati said:
IMG_0604[1] | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
IMG_0597[1] | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
848evo before the crash

Man that evo looks so much better but it's like they said earlier you want the comfort especially if you ride everyday like myself but i'mstill debatting wether to get the 848 evo new or 899 new

899Rider

· #14 · Nov 26, 2013

Talus said:
For me, it's hard to say goodbye to the trellis frame. It's so iconic. But, if I rode the two back to back to make a decision as a buyer, ergos and drivability would take precedence over looks..because both the 848 and 899 are supermodels.

I feel your pain.

Noitall

· #15 · Apr 29, 2014

Looks like 848 wins hands down in Stock trim stripped of lights etc both bikes with slip-ons, for the following reasons:
1. 899 heavier - rear wheel weighs 9 kg which is a disgrace.
2. 848 power delivery much better than 899 which outweighs the minimal power gain.
3. 899 handles nowhere near as well as 848 but should get better with development.
4. In UK 899 off the pace of 848 by 0.8s at short circuit like Brands Hatch - lap times don't lie.
In it's favour the 899 engine is probably more robust due to chain drive but biggest failure is the development of the V twin to produce its power higher up the rev range like a four.
Unfortunately too much bullshit from journalists who raved about the 899 protecting there jollies to foreign tracks paid for by Ducati.

MarkDucati

· #16 · Mar 27, 2015

I was actually looking for a used 848... That's when I first saw the Panigale!

For me it was like looking for a used Ferrari 360, then laying eyes on a 458... I was like "I must have THAT one"!

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Duckandpaint

· #17 · Mar 28, 2015

My penis still feels big riding the 899....

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onlyme

· #18 · Mar 28, 2015

After a year with the 899 i wont be getting a 1199/1299 as my next bike,it will be a 1098 for me,the 899 looks great from ever angle but its biggest let down is its lack of low end grunt,if i had my time over again i would have got a 848 evo,not saying the 899 is a bad bike,its just lacking in areas you have to ride the thing hard to get the most out of it,the 848 just pulls from low down and is easier to ride fast.

ASM

· #19 · Mar 29, 2015

onlyme said:
After a year with the 899 i wont be getting a 1199/1299 as my next bike,it will be a 1098 for me,the 899 looks great from ever angle but its biggest let down is its lack of low end grunt,if i had my time over again i would have got a 848 evo,not saying the 899 is a bad bike,its just lacking in areas you have to ride the thing hard to get the most out of it,the 848 just pulls from low down and is easier to ride fast.

I am expecting the 899 Evo (or whatever they gonna call it) having the same improvements for the torque range as they managed to give the 1299...

craiger527

· #20 · May 27, 2015

I have really enjoyed my 848 for several years and have tracked it numerous times. The 899 really intrigued me then I rode one last Sept at COTA. Then I was hooked, found a used one 2 mos ago and have been really happy. I have tracked the 899 twice since then but can't say which one is faster because I don't record lap times. I'm a midlevel Intermediate rider and feel more confident with the electronics and quick shifter. The front brake is not as strong as the 848 and also doesn't have quite the torque but I prefer the 899. I had the sag set by Huey from Marietta Motorsports and he was very complimentary of the stock suspension. Usually I always hear I need Ohlins. Oh, I just love the sound of the TERMI'S!!!

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