[darthmoto]

I don't own an 899 yet, so part of me logging onto these boards is to get a feel for how not only this bike rides and its idiosyncracies but how it is to wrench on. I realize the bike is too new to even think about doing any major DIY stuff. But one of my major criteria on choosing a bike is to eventually be able to do all maintenance on my own. Not so much to save money, but pride of my own handiwork. I've done all my own work on my cars, my Honda CB1 and currently am in the process of ordering tools and diagnostics equipment for my Monster 696, which has 35k on the clock.

Anyone with experience with 4V desmos see the 899 as something that's feasible to wrench on on their own later down the road? or anyone just planning on diving headfirst when their 2 years are up?

 

[trp899]

For the 1st 2years with warranty, I will be taking the bike to the dealership. Hopefully by then someone will be selling a "Ducati Diagnostic Tool" so we can clear service light(s) and do our own work on the bike.

 

[snake shake]

Personally I don't see it being viable. With all the electronics packed in there I just dont see it beeing possible to go completely self reliant. Theres too much software and algorithms to make it completely feasible.

thats not saying you cant get through a good chunk on your own. General maintenance sure..

 

[rjjr]

I'll be doing a lot of the maintenance stuff myself after the 600mi check up. I normally change the oil and filter after 4 track days. The parts catalogue is now out so some of the more advanced stuff you can figure out from that. The techs at the dealership are more than willing to discuss any questions I have. I enjoy working on my bikes and feel safer knowing I did the work myself.

 

[385north]

Like rjjr, I'm in a similar boat.

I won't be doing the wrenching (nothing major) but there's no Ducati dealership here in Jamaica... And I certainly couldn't send the bike to Miami every time it needs an oil change, etc...

Getting closer to the purchasing stage - maybe a call to the dealer would help, somehow I don't think they'll be selling me (or the garage here) a diagnostic tool.

 

[Ugrin]

My question is ...am I obligated to take the bike to the dealer during the 2 year warranty for oil change and general maintenance and if I don't is this is going to void the warranty ? I like to work on my motorcycles or at least on staff I can do myself ....I have to agree with snake shake tough ...when it comes to all the electronics I won't have a choice but to take it to the dealer however if I pay $17k for it I'll be hopping not to have to do it much at all

 

[darthmoto]

Electronics shouldn't be too much of a worry. There is already an end user diagnostics tool for the 1199 Panigale, and I trust that Technoresearch will have one for the 899 as well since it uses the same Mitsubishi ECU. I'm actually very optimistic about it because these guys are actually developing a tool that not only does standard diagnostics, but have the ability to tune fuel maps as well.

But yeah, before I buy the bike I'm going to make sure I budget for the roughly 3k it will cost for dealer maintenance up to the 2 year mark.

 

[darthmoto]

I'll be doing a lot of the maintenance stuff myself after the 600mi check up. I normally change the oil and filter after 4 track days. The parts catalogue is now out so some of the more advanced stuff you can figure out from that. The techs at the dealership are more than willing to discuss any questions I have. I enjoy working on my bikes and feel safer knowing I did the work myself.

Seems like you have a great dealership. I think its a case by case.. Some places don't want you working on your bike under warranty, and others are cool and look out for you.

I've been lucky enough to have a good relationship with my dealer that I bought my monster from.. They let me do the 600 mile oil change and bolt torque specs.. After that, they agreed to let me do consumables like Brakes, clutch, chain, sprockets, etc. while they took care of major work like valve check/adjust and belt check/replacement..

 

[darthmoto]

My question is ...am I obligated to take the bike to the dealer during the 2 year warranty for oil change and general maintenance and if I don't is this is going to void the warranty ? I like to work on my motorcycles or at least on staff I can do myself ....I have to agree with snake shake tough ...when it comes to all the electronics I won't have a choice but to take it to the dealer however if I pay $17k for it I'll be hopping not to have to do it much at all

With my monster I was obligated to bring it back for all the scheduled stuff every 7500 miles while under warranty.. They expected me to do the oil changes between every 7500 miles. So I always did the oil filter, oil screen, new crush washer, and motul 300v every 3750mi. (Directly between 7500mi services)

You should just ask the service manager at your dealership.

 

[dissonanz]

My question is ...am I obligated to take the bike to the dealer during the 2 year warranty for oil change and general maintenance and if I don't is this is going to void the warranty ? I like to work on my motorcycles or at least on staff I can do myself ....I have to agree with snake shake tough ...when it comes to all the electronics I won't have a choice but to take it to the dealer however if I pay $17k for it I'll be hopping not to have to do it much at all

According to US law, the manufacturer cannot void your warranty if work is done by an independent shop. Source: http://cadrecycle.com/magnusonmoss.php

I assume that similar laws exist elsewhere in the world.

I've also been told by a local shop that as long as you can show that the scheduled maintenance was performed--by yourself with parts receipts or with a service invoice from a shop--the warranty should remain intact.

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[Quo Vadas]

^^ correct.
A manafacturer cannot void your warranty if you take you bike to a non-authorised dealer for work.
Not sure if any specific tools are needed to do valve clearances, cam pins etc but alot of Euro bikes now have specific tools for specific needs but I know alot of ppl that just mod a tool to make it work.

Still trying to get my hands on a workshop manual.

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[darthmoto]

Yeah, I'd love to get my hands on the workshop e-manual as well. Those things really demystify a lot, and ultimately tell you exactly what if any newer specific tools are needed for the superquadro engine.. I can't imagine there'd be much over your standard set... This site gave me a good idea, besides the diagnostics tools. Tool Kits

 

[Ugrin]

Thanks man...this is good to know

 

[Ugrin]

According to US law, the manufacturer cannot void your warranty if work is done by an independent shop. Source: Cadre Cycle.

I assume that similar laws exist elsewhere in the world.

I've also been told by a local shop that as long as you can show that the scheduled maintenance was performed--by yourself with parts receipts or with a service invoice from a shop--the warranty should remain intact.

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Thanks man...this good to know

 

[Ugrin]

Yeah, I'd love to get my hands on the workshop e-manual as well. Those things really demystify a lot, and ultimately tell you exactly what if any newer specific tools are needed for the superquadro engine.. I can't imagine there'd be much over your standard set... This site gave me a good idea, besides the diagnostics tools. Tool Kits

Good web page . Thanks man

 

[Ugrin]

Yeah, I'd love to get my hands on the workshop e-manual as well. Those things really demystify a lot, and ultimately tell you exactly what if any newer specific tools are needed for the superquadro engine.. I can't imagine there'd be much over your standard set... This site gave me a good idea, besides the diagnostics tools. Tool Kits

Where can you buy e-manual ? I have one for my Honda Ridgeline and yeah it tells you step by step what to do and tools needed ...Post if you find a manual please

 

[rjjr]

Where can you buy e-manual ? I have one for my Honda Ridgeline and yeah it tells you step by step what to do and tools needed ...Post if you find a manual please

They're not available yet.

 

[Hot Air]

I have this link saved for when they do:

DUCATI Manuals Resource

They have the 848 and 1199 workshop manuals.

 

[92GTA]

I plan on it yes. I used the dealer for my 600, I'll be doing all of my oil changes myself until I use the dealer again for the 15K service. I always keep all my receipts for everything and keep track of mileage.

After that the warranty will be expired and I'll be doing everything myself. I plan on buying the specialty tools I need.

 

[ashuskarde]

I have this link saved for when they do:

DUCATI Manuals Resource

They have the 848 and 1199 workshop manuals.

I was told by the Portland guys that they will not have the manuals this year as it will be incorporated into their networked system. I hope they do; I'd hate to go back to spending money for stuff I like to do.