Are the stock wheels on the 899 Marches or not? I couldn't find any documentation confirming or denying this... everything just says "lightweight aluminum wheels"
I thought they were just casts made by Enkei like the 848? My 2009 had Enkei rims anyway. I haven't checked my 899 yet personally.
The Marchesini's are the forged wheels, and I believe they are owned by Brembo. I remember the 848 used to have Brembo (not Marchesini) wheels until they switched to Enkei in late 2009.
My 848 has Marchesini rims as standard and they are cast not forged,but my pikes peak has forged Marchesini,forged rims are a lot stronger(3 times) and lighter(25%)than cast rims.
They're not available yet, but should be in the next few months, there will be both forged aluminum and forged magnesium, available in gloss black, matte black and gold. Marvic is going to have forged aluminum wheels coming out also, we just sent the wheel measurements to the distributor last week so they can start designing them. It's close to a 999 wheel on the rear, but the axle diameter is larger so it needs different bearing surfaces. OZ will also have wheels coming out soon. Carrozzeria wheels are a little heavier (hence cheaper) than the Italian wheels, but still way lighter than stock.
Thanks for your update. Do you happen to know if the Marchesinis that will be coming out will be the same size as the originals that come with the bike. Also do this wheels affect the computer for the different types of controls? ABS, etc?
Yes, they will be a 5.5" rear as standard, but you can probably special-order a 6" wheel if you're willing to wait a couple months. Changing the wheels to lighter ones will have no effect on any of the systems/controls on the bike, other than making it handle better!
They are nice but what about the rear rim? That site says that the rear wheel is only for a single side swing arm. But you can get the front to fit the 899.
Roughly what sort of weight saving does a set of Marchesini or Marvics achieve?
I am fully aware of the benefits in less unsprung weight and less rotational inertia. A lot of people go straight for performance exhausts but I'm trying to figure out what's best bang for buck. I have a sneaky suspicion that lighter wheels might offer a better performance gain over the pipes. I'm interested to see what others think?
Don't know for sure on the 899 wheels since I haven't weighed them yet, but I saved 9 lbs. on my 1199 base model by switching to Marchesini forged magnesium. You are correct that as far as a performance benefit light wheels will have more of an effect than an exhaust will, at least on the track.
I alluded to this in my above post, but yes! I know it's not exactly the same, but I think it's a great example... I rode my buddies VMax that was equipped with BSTs and it made this heavy cruiser bike handle like a 600cc sportbike! Absolutely amazing and I wouldn't own a street bike without a set.
I have also ridden BMWS1000RRs, Hayabusa's, & GSXRs with BSTs and the end result is always the same; better braking, quicker acceleration, and phenomenal handling.
Sorry, but I have to disagree with some of what you said...
You need to pay attention during a tire change, but I have changed hundreds of BST wheels with no issues whatsoever. You just can't throw it on a tire machine and let the arms run into the rims carelessly... But taking your time and paying attention there are no issues.
I've also seen people put 10s of thousands of miles on rims and have them for 10 years with no issues, so I'm not sure what the durability issues are? Sure, if you wreck your bike you could have some durability issues, but on the flip side I've also seen wheels that were on a wrecked bike survive without any problems.... And I'm talking one scenario where a bike was wrecked at over 200mph.
Great wheels and well worth the money in my opinion. After riding a buddies VMax that was equipped, I wouldn't own a street bike without them!
As far as the durability is concerned... I feel very confident in them after wheeling an almost 700lb bike multiple times and coming down fairly hard... This is a picture of one that I was able to ride out... a few I had her quite vertical and had some hard landings...
Thanks for the input and info. The BSTs sure look like nice wheels. Light wheels will be the first place I'll spend money. Saving weight on wheels makes so much sense.
1) Less mass = better acceleration and deceleration
2) Less rotational inertia = better acceleration and deceleration (a dual benefit of lighter wheels compared to other parts of the bike)
3) Less gyroscopic effect = quicker direction changes
4) Less unsprung weight = better suspension performance and therefore better grip.
Partly cost, partly safety issue since damage might not be visibly apparent and those bikes are crashed often. AMA doesn't even allow Magnesium wheels now, they have to be aluminum, which is all about cost and nothing else.
Might be able to buy some really niceMarchesini wheels, never been in use only fitted for a project 600 bike. They look really good, and he doesn't want much for them, less than a grand for the whole set. The seller claim it will fit any bike as long as I get the right adapters for it. The wheels are a M10 design, although I do not know which of them it is other than it is forged alu. I am guessing M10RS Kompe.
Will I be able to make them fit?
@[URL="http://www.899panigale.org/forum/members/jarelj.html"]jarelj[/URL]; maybe you know the answer to my question above? Sorry if I am impatient here, I just got this offer, and must take him up on it soon, as he will not hold them for me if someone else wants them.
Reason for my eagerness here too, is that the price here is really good, and prices for new set in Norway is, well - lets call it about twice the price of what you guys in the US can get wheels for, so if can get a nice set of Marchesini's for less than half of the new price, then I must have them.
Sorry I have no idea whether some random wheel might fit the 899. Even if you could source the correct cush drive and spacers who knows if the rotor mount would be the same. All of the Marchesini wheels are definitely not the same.
I will not risk it then, being stuck with wheels that won't fit. Thanks a lot, Jarel, sorry to have called you out, I was kinda in a hurry. Will let him know that I will not buy them. Pity tho, they were really nice.
What do you guys think about a 6 inch rear rim for the 899? I talked to BST already and they can make one. Will it be better for track use? Running Pirelli SC2s
The 899 doesn't need that much rubber with the power output it has, you'll give up turning agility and acceleration in exchange for extra drive grip you don't need.
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