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considering how much value you get for your money with the 899, i say it's a better buy, but nothing will be as baller as the 1199. If i was willing to spend $20k easily on a bike the 1199 would be it, no question.
 

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well the 899 is the 'supermid' version of the 1199. The story goes that with the 899 Ducati wanted to offer the performance of the 1199 in a bike that was more refined for daily use. Using the 1199 for daily duty is like driving an F1 car to and from the office everyday. Cool sure but you start to miss creature comforts and start cursing the race tuned suspension and how they misbehave at low speeds.

the 1199 is a very well behaved bike, but like anything bred to go fast the 1199 is unhappy at low speed..

the 899 and 1199 use the same Superquadro engine in the 899 you get 898cc displacement, bore x stroke of 100 x 57.2mm and power figures of 148 hp/73 lb-ft of torque all in a package weighing 193 kg, very close to the magic 1:1 ratio.

Compare that with the 1199 where displacement is bumped to 1198cc and bore x stroke grows to 112 x 60.8 mm. Power figures or 195 hp/98.1 lb-ft of torque with a wet weight of 188 kg, beating the 1:1 power to weight ratio...

Both 1199 and 899 share Ducatis Quick Shift System. Basically power shifting for mototrcycles, up shifts at wide open throttle :D as well as the same frame construction. They do have differing final drives as well.

Considering how similar the 899 and 1199 panigale are my biggest question is are we going to see an 899 Panigale S or Panigale R??
 

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I've seen more info supporting the possibility of an R model over the S. Still tough to say for sure but I have a good feeling we'll see the R model.
 

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I don't think the 1199 is any less "comfortable" for riding to work and back than the 899.
That is my opinion anyways.
 

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I'm thinking about buying the 899 or a used 1199.
The bike is gonna be for every day use, so due to ducati it's the 899 which should be more userfriendly. But why that? Are the ergonomics any different from the 1199? If the 899 is more "comfortable" than the 1199 I probably would get that one. But besides the thicker seat is there anything that makes the 899 a better every day bike than the 1199?
 

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I'm thinking about buying the 899 or a used 1199.
The bike is gonna be for every day use, so due to ducati it's the 899 which should be more userfriendly. But why that? Are the ergonomics any different from the 1199? If the 899 is more "comfortable" than the 1199 I probably would get that one. But besides the thicker seat is there anything that makes the 899 a better every day bike than the 1199?

The 899 has one less degree of rider angle. I don't think that would be enough to notice.
 

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well Ive ridden both bikes, and all I can say is I'm nowhere near good enough to exploit the 1199, unless your racing in WSB then I don't see the point in 195hp, however the 1199 is an amazing bike, but I've chosen the 899 because I can ride the life out of it, it is a riders bike you cant be lazy, i.e. coming out of a corner on the track in the wrong gear, it makes you up your game!! And with the suspension set up its going to be awesome!!
 

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I don't see how the 1199 is a better bike than the 899.
I have ridden an 1199 numerous times and I see no need for the extra 198cc's over a normal litre bike, suspension is not as compliant as the 899 and the bike is much hotter under the seat.
I have owned many big bikes and have never been able to ride any of them to their absolute limits - if I could I would be riding in WSBK or something similar.
My RSV4R has a shitload of power and I find that if you use it for commuting it is just a waste and the bike let's you know that!
The 899 is the perfect bike for the streets and track as it has "useable" power whereas the 1199 is just a bit too much, peaky engine and throttle delivery. It would be good on the track but I can honestly say that I would be a slower rider on the 1199 than on the 899 or the Ape - why, because they are just easier to ride and wring the neck of.

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You really need to look at them as two different bikes. 1199 is horrible on the streets simply because of its power and how it's delivered. I've been a 1000cc + owner since 2006 and alway drift towards those engines but I'd go to the 899 in this case. You'll have more fun with it everywhere.


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