[jarelj]

We just got the part numbers for the Ohlins NIX30 and TTX25 fork cartridge kits for the 899 Panigale! Also there's a TTXGP shock spec'd for the 899 also, it's the same as the 1199 TTXGP shock other than the spring rate.

 

[Heizenberg]

So are you going to be buying any of these kits to install on your Panigale? I haven't really heard of anyone having many complaints about the stock suspension.

 

[jarelj]

So are you going to be buying any of these kits to install on your Panigale? I haven't really heard of anyone having many complaints about the stock suspension.

Mine's going to be a dedicated track bike. I'm going to start out when our track season starts in April with the stock 899 forks and a revalved 1199 shock to do some testing with, and depending on how that goes I might upgrade to the full Ohlins setup. I had that setup on my 1199 and it was awesome, but I want to try the 899 Showa forks first just because I have never ridden on the track on those forks and would like to see where the limit is with them. Generally, for hard track riding we seem to always find a limit with any stock fork in not having enough compression damping to control the front under hard braking, and usually a lack of rebound damping as well. We'll see.

 

[snake shake]

whats the cost on the full Ohlins treatment?

 

[jarelj]

Ohlins is still offering the TTX/NIX combo deal this year, so if you get both the TTXGP shock and the NIX30 fork cartridges together it's $2395. Otherwise individually the shock is $1459 and fork cartridges are $1313, according to Ohlins USA's minimum advertised pricing. They come with appropriate springs for your weight and riding style.

Or if you happen to know a forum peep who owns an Ohlins certified tuning center, you might drop him a PM..........

 

[Infinwin]

Mine's going to be a dedicated track bike. I'm going to start out when our track season starts in April with the stock 899 forks and a revalved 1199 shock to do some testing with, and depending on how that goes I might upgrade to the full Ohlins setup. I had that setup on my 1199 and it was awesome, but I want to try the 899 Showa forks first just because I have never ridden on the track on those forks and would like to see where the limit is with them. Generally, for hard track riding we seem to always find a limit with any stock fork in not having enough compression damping to control the front under hard braking, and usually a lack of rebound damping as well. We'll see.

I look forward to what you find out about the Showa's on the track.

 

[devill66]

You have to be really fast to need a 2,5K upgrade on the suspension. Let the bike be setup to your weight if needed first and spend the dollars on lighter wheels if the money has to go anyways

 

[jarelj]

You have to be really fast to need a 2,5K upgrade on the suspension.

I'll take that as a compliment! Ha ha!

 

[devill66]

Take it how you would like it . Like taking half the comment to quote....

 

[jarelj]

In all honesty I've always found suspension to be one of the best places to spend money on a bike and get a real benefit from it. Here's an example: I had an original 1098 back in 2007 and upgraded the suspension to full Ohlins R&T forks and an Ohlins race-spec rear shock. It was a dual-purpose street and track bike, had race plastic but still had lights/mirrors and I rode it back and forth to work as well as doing track days on it. We had a store demo model (bone stock) 1098 also, and several times I let someone ride my bike after riding the demo model, and everyone raved about how great the street ride quality was on mine vs. the bone stock one. It wasn't just a small improvement, it was a big difference that was immediately noticeable to anyone who rode it. And the Showa components on the standard 1098 were not bad at all, as far as OEM suspension goes it was about as good as anything on the market. But that's still not as good as top-quality (i.e. expensive) aftermarket components. Most people seem to think that the only way to get the benefit from the aftermarket suspension components is with your knee on the ground at 130 mph on the track, but in reality all you have to do is cross a set of railroad tracks on the street and you'll immediately see the difference that really precise damping control makes. Whether the dollar-to-benefit ratio is right for anyone in particular is up to them of course.

 

[devill66]

With all the respect, 90% of all riders are not able to set the bike proper. Not even trackday riders. Original suspension is not that bad, but needs other springs in most cases. Factory does not set on weight but can only take average. No mather if you have Ohlins, WP, Sachs or what ever....set it to weight and let a specialist set up the bike. Folks who are really faster on the track with higher grade suspension do need to set up every other track and even same track with different temperatures. Like me a lot of us are average trackday riders....not stoner or rossi...
I had a gixxer 1K with the ohlins TTX36 and Cartridges in the front on the track....so yes i have been there. Sometimes i think it is a hype to have the best stuff to get 60% out of the potential of a bike.....

 

[adeyrob]

With all the respect, 90% of all riders are not able to set the bike proper. Not even trackday riders. Original suspension is not that bad, but needs other springs in most cases. Factory does not set on weight but can only take average. No mather if you have Ohlins, WP, Sachs or what ever....set it to weight and let a specialist set up the bike. Folks who are really faster on the track with higher grade suspension do need to set up every other track and even same track with different temperatures. Like me a lot of us are average trackday riders....not stoner or rossi...
I had a gixxer 1K with the ohlins TTX36 and Cartridges in the front on the track....so yes i have been there. Sometimes i think it is a hype to have the best stuff to get 60% out of the potential of a bike.....

Agree fully, to get the best out of any bike the suspension has to be set to the rider and how you ride. I don't pretend to know the finer points of setting a bike up, so take mine to the professionals, I use Kais performance, not to expensive, around £50 and probably the best thing to spend on the bike.

 

[jarelj]

Fully agree, proper setup with correct springs, setting the sag and baseline damping settings should be a given to get the most benefit from the stock components.

 

[scrapcook78]

Hi all, anyone knows if a ohlins ttx du930 mk2 meant for the 1199 will fit to the 899? Any feedback or suggestions will be much appreciated. Thanks all

 

[jarelj]

Hi all, anyone knows if a ohlins ttx du930 mk2 meant for the 1199 will fit to the 899? Any feedback or suggestions will be much appreciated. Thanks all

Yes, will bolt right on. HOWEVER, that shock is going to be sprung and valved for the flat-rate setting on the 1199 linkage, so you may not like the way it performs on the 899 if you haven't also upgraded to the adjustable linkage.

 

[scrapcook78]

Hi jarel

Thanks for the prompt reply, would I be better off buying a ttx meant for the 899 then? Just happen to have an offer to buy a used one for the 1199 but if I have to get a linkage from the 1199, then maybe it makes more sense to just buy a new ttx meant for the 899, I'm using the bike on track and occasional ride it around town.

 

[jarelj]

Hi jarel

Thanks for the prompt reply, would I be better off buying a ttx meant for the 899 then? Just happen to have an offer to buy a used one for the 1199 but if I have to get a linkage from the 1199, then maybe it makes more sense to just buy a new ttx meant for the 899, I'm using the bike on track and occasional ride it around town.

If it's going to see track use, I'd get the proper TTX for the 899, which is the DU339P. We have them here:
http://www.motospecialties.com/stor...n&category=Suspension - Shocks&ItemNum=DU339P

If you're an advanced rider/racer then I'd say go for the 1199 flat-rate linkage conversion and get the 1199 TTX model that you mentioned. We have the linkage kits here:
http://www.motospecialties.com/stor...=Suspension&category=Linkages&ItemNum=899LINK

 

[scrapcook78]

Hi jarel

Thanks so much for the helpful info, will give it a proper think thru on which direction I should take.