[Ttown899]

Ok so I've read that it can be done but has anybody seen it done or know of a how to write-up of everything involved? I would love for my 899 to have the single sided swing arm.

I'm just wondering if all the electronics are plug and play. It would be really cool if it was as simple as removing the 899 swing arm and bolting up the 1199.

Let me hear what you guys think and if anybody is working on this now it would be great to see a detailed write-up with pics.

 

[rjjr]

Another forum member was talking about doing that a while back. As I recall it would be expensive and a little more involved. You can pick up a new swing arm with a hub, rotor and sprocket for around 1K. You'll need an 1199 wheel/tire, conversion to the 1199 suspension linkage and perhaps a new caliper and/or master cylinder. The person to talk to about his would be Jarel, a forum member who is quite knowledgeable. Seems the only logical reason for doing the conversion is the bling factor as handling might be negatively affected.

 

[Warhammer]

There are some on ebay that are slightly duffed up if you are determined to do this.

Ducati Panigale 1199 2012 Rear Swingarm Assembly Suspension | eBay

 

[Ttown899]

Thanks for the info rjjr. Yeah my only reason would be for looks. I know it would cost more than it would be worth.

Just thinking if I ever come across a complete swing arm off a crashed 1199 for a reasonable price it might be a fun project.

 

[4385]

Just buy an 1199

 

[Ttown899]

There are some on ebay that are slightly duffed up if you are determined to do this.

Ducati Panigale 1199 2012 Rear Swingarm Assembly Suspension | eBay

I probably will never do it but ebay is what had me even thinking of the possibility.

I would like to see it done by someone though. I think it would be a fun project.

 

[Howard]

Why would you want to do that? The 899 dual sided swingarm is more rigid, lighter and shorter. Keep it, its better.

 

[Evolution]

According to Cristian Gasparri (Ducati Sportsbike Project Manager) the DSSA is actually heavier. It's 6kg for the 899 arm, and 5.1 for the 1199. Not sure where you got that the 899 one is lighter.

 

[92GTA]

According to Cristian Gasparri (Ducati Sportsbike Project Manager) the DSSA is actually heavier. It's 6kg for the 899 arm, and 5.1 for the 1199. Not sure where you got that the 899 one is lighter.

I've read a couple places that it's lighter I guess everywhere else has it wrong, I'd believe Ducati, especially since they gave the weights you mention straight from them...

 

[Evolution]

I've read a couple places that it's lighter I guess everywhere else has it wrong, I'd believe Ducati, especially since they gave the weights you mention straight from them...

Yup, here it is, straight from the horse's mouth.

 

[jarelj]

That could be a typo in that article, we were told during the 899 training at Ducati that the DSSA on the 899 is slightly lighter than the SSSA on the 1199. I'll see if I can get a real answer on it.

 

[jarelj]

Called Ducati, still working on getting a definitive answer, both both people I talked to said they were under the impression that the 899 swingarm is lighter based upon what was said at the bike launch/training.

Here are a couple other references to publications that stated the 899 swingarm is lighter:
2014 Ducati 899 Panigale Review and Specification | Linemotorcycle.com

7 things you didn't know about Ducati's 899 Panigale - Features - Visordown

 

[devill66]

My dealer did put the 1199 swang arm in a 899. But this is for endurance race purposes, for changing the wheel and not for looks.

 

[jarelj]

My dealer did put the 1199 swang arm in a 899. But this is for endurance race purposes, for changing the wheel and not for looks.

Now THAT'S a valid reason to do it!

 

[devill66]

Fast changing....

 

[rybo]

I've been thinking about this some and had the following "pondering"

I wonder if there isn't an "apples / oranges" comparison happening here.

For example -

If I just weigh the swing arm, the 1199 one is heavier than the 899 one. Easy.

But what if you compared the whole system?

Swingarm, brake rotor, sprocket, cush drive, wheel?

Is it possible that the forged wheel on an "S" model could offset the weight difference of the swing arm? I'm guessing that it is indeed possible. The stock rear wheel on my 899 is pretty heavy compared to the race wheels I had on my 748 and I'm guessing (though I haven't picked one up) that the forged wheel on the "S" is pretty light too.

Just food for thought.

In the end there are exactly two reasons to do this-

1) Appearance

2) Quick change

If you don't have either of those requirements then it's almost certainly not worth doing.

 

[jarelj]

I'd say it's very possible that some statements made to the journalists at the bike launch were based upon not just the raw swingarm itself but the entire assembly. I would guess the rear hub assembly in the SSSA on the 1199 weighs a lot more than the axle and two slider blocks in the DSSA on the 899.

 

[chouse34]

reviving this relic...

the SSSA is on ebay for 500 bucks. how has no one tried this

Yes its a "pointless" "you should have bought an 1199" mod. but we've all spent money and time on stupider things...

I might give this a go over the winter if there aren't any glaring hangups in planning. My chief concern is the handling changes that may come from the slightly extended wheelbase.

 

[ducatichiel]

Does anybody know the difference in length between the DSSA and the SSSA?
I have ridden both the 1199(standard as well as S version) and the 899.
I could not really feel much difference in the handling.
And besides isn't the excentric for tensioning the chain in the SSSA causing a shift in the wheelbase? I can recall a certain King Carl complaining about this in the 916 era

 

[MustangWolf]

Google usually helps with these kinds of questions

1199 wheelbase = 56.6"
899 wheelbase = 56.1"

Supposedly the reason for the "longer" wheelbase of the 1199 is to reduce wheelies with aggressive throttling.

Does anybody know the difference in length between the DSSA and the SSSA?
I have ridden both the 1199(standard as well as S version) and the 899.
I could not really feel much difference in the handling.
And besides isn't the excentric for tensioning the chain in the SSSA causing a shift in the wheelbase? I can recall a certain King Carl complaining about this in the 916 era