My next Litre Bike - Ducati 899 Panigale Forum
View Poll Results: Which bike should I burden myself with?
Aprilia RSv4 13 41.94%
BMW S1000RR 8 25.81%
2015+ Yamaha R1 5 16.13%
You're complete dolt to get something other than the 899 6 19.35%
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post #1 of 25 Old 02-02-2016, 07:04 PM Thread Starter
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My next Litre Bike

So, I've been toying with the idea of getting another bike for trackdays and canyon riding to offset the mileage I've been gaining on the 899. I've been looking at the RSV4 and S1000RR longingly in a way normally associated with leering old men in a strip club. Now that the new R1 is out, that's entered my shortlist as well.

So, for my own entertainment (and possible prodding) I'm conducting my own little poll here to help me decide on the next bike (along with some testing of course). You can vote for more than 1 bike.

I'm also interested in hearing from owners of these bikes what their experience has been on the track, on backroads, and with maintenance rituals and costs.
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I did the same thing mate. Thought about selling the dirt bike and buying another big bike to offset the mileage on the Duke. Was too attached to the dirt bike so rather than let her go I bought a SMALLER bike. Yes you read it right. Got myself a Yamaha MT03 (the old school 660 cc single version) and love it. Less horsepower helps you develop better habits maintaining corner speed and if you ask me thats exactly what us 899 riders need.

Just a though anyway. My money would be on the RSVR....
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Well, I am going to suggest that you seriously consider the RR...
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I did the same thing mate. Thought about selling the dirt bike and buying another big bike to offset the mileage on the Duke. Was too attached to the dirt bike so rather than let her go I bought a SMALLER bike. Yes you read it right. Got myself a Yamaha MT03 (the old school 660 cc single version) and love it. Less horsepower helps you develop better habits maintaining corner speed and if you ask me thats exactly what us 899 riders need.

Just a though anyway. My money would be on the RSVR....
Funny, me and my track buddies we seriously considering cutting money together to share a 250cc or 300cc for track days to work on techniques. That may still happen apart from the liter bike.

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Well, I am going to suggest that you seriously consider the RR...
You and the Baron (von Grumble) have reinforced my love for the S1kR. Do you take her to the track as well? I know that I'm gonna have to join the S1kR forum to get some insight.

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The RF is miles better than the '15 s1krr for fast pace riding. The s1krr is fast and solid but it flicks slower and feels really porky compare to the RF. Base on 44teeth video, the r1 seems to be the better track bike of the 3.

I would pick up an r1 but i can barely reach the ground on the 33.7 seat height RF let alone a 34.7 seat height r1lm.

The RF is like a better version of the 899, brakes, handling, power, flick ability - in my opinion the perfect upgrade for a 899 user. The bmw is slower, feels really solid but as a 899 rider it is vastly different. I consider the bmw a porker. The bmw doesn't slice as well through the track. Probably at the hands or a really competent user this would be different.

Everyone on the s1k forum are very bias and bmw diehards. We have a few hp4 users transitioning to the RF at the aprilia forum and they seem to consider the RF a nice change. The suspension, chassis, engine placement, power delivery makes the RF really good. The controls and dash is a bit outdated but the bike is amazing. For both street and track the bmw would be a better pick since everything else on the bike is more suitable and more comfortable as a whole.

The s1k is my street bike, the rf and 899 is track only now.




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the RR is an amazing bike for both the track and daily use, it's very canfi and amazing both on the roads and track. after all the reach i have done, the 899 is great for the same but the bmw has more confert options and less heat and more power.

but to be honest nothing beats the looks of a Ducati, it just moves you just by looking at it .


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You and the Baron (von Grumble) have reinforced my love for the S1kR. Do you take her to the track as well? I know that I'm gonna have to join the S1kR forum to get some insight.
I had not planned on it at first, however if I can get it to COTA later this year, I will be thrilled. Was initially looking at a smaller single bike trailer, but with the RR, I now want to be able to take both bikes if I am going out of town for a two day track session.

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The RF is miles better than the '15 s1krr for fast pace riding. The s1krr is fast and solid but it flicks slower and feels really porky compare to the RF. Base on 44teeth video, the r1 seems to be the better track bike of the 3.

I would pick up an r1 but i can barely reach the ground on the 33.7 seat height RF let alone a 34.7 seat height r1lm.

The RF is like a better version of the 899, brakes, handling, power, flick ability - in my opinion the perfect upgrade for a 899 user. The bmw is slower, feels really solid but as a 899 rider it is vastly different. I consider the bmw a porker. The bmw doesn't slice as well through the track. Probably at the hands or a really competent user this would be different.

Everyone on the s1k forum are very bias and bmw diehards. We have a few hp4 users transitioning to the RF at the aprilia forum and they seem to consider the RF a nice change. The suspension, chassis, engine placement, power delivery makes the RF really good. The controls and dash is a bit outdated but the bike is amazing. For both street and track the bmw would be a better pick since everything else on the bike is more suitable and more comfortable as a whole.

The s1k is my street bike, the rf and 899 is track only now.
Do you have the HP wheels or upgraded the cast to forged? I chose the wheel option which is a killer deal for the cost and I can't tell much of a difference between them and the 899 with the Rotobox wheels.

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I'm of the mindset that smaller bikes make better track bikes - more time at full throttle, lighter and less physical so you can do more consecutive days at the track, teaches you about corner speed, and easier on tires. So I would add Triumph 675R into the mix and possibly hold out for the next generation R6.

IF you MUST have 1,000cc motorcycle for track/canyons then I don't know how you buy anything other than an Aprilia RSV4.

Just my opinion so leave me alone if you disagree.
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