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post #1 of 33 Old 11-05-2015, 08:48 AM Thread Starter
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I have seen alot of people here refer to Shorai Lithium batteries. I am well aware of the advantages of Lithium batteries but do wonder why noone seems to use the Magneti Marelli ones?
The price of the Shorai ones seems a bit excessive and when you consider you can have a Magneti Marelli one that is every bit as good and weighs even a little less, all for around $76usd delivered i don't know why more people aren't going that way.
Actually i probably should of done a search for them on the forum before posting this but all i have seen to date has been references to the Shorai brand.
Is there something i don't know?
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Could be due to availability and brand awareness as when I searched for lithium batteries previously, Shorai come up in repeatedly in the results whereas any competition was rarely mentioned. Just about every shop I checked for Li batteries also only carried Shorai in my area.
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Just asking, but unless you're racing can you tell a difference in weight savings? I can see changing the rims out, but all I've done is remove the rear foot pegs, mirrors, and swapping out for a lighter battery, what's the point?

I dont know if that's 6 or 10 lbs weight saving, but I can't certainly tell a difference in handling with that minor weight?

Saving weight seems like an all out goal or dont even bother?
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Just asking, but unless you're racing can you tell a difference in weight savings? I can see changing the rims out, but all I've done is remove the rear foot pegs, mirrors, and swapping out for a lighter battery, what's the point?

I dont know if that's 6 or 10 lbs weight saving, but I can't certainly tell a difference in handling with that minor weight?

Saving weight seems like an all out goal or dont even bother?
Lithium batteries are definitely a superior product to lead acid. Although the weight saving is certainly a plus, in my mind when i can get a Lithium for less than the price of a conventional Yuasa it's no contest.
So yeah, i was just wondering what the big fascination with the Shorai brand was. Looks like MustangWolf may have answered that for me
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Just asking, but unless you're racing can you tell a difference in weight savings? I can see changing the rims out, but all I've done is remove the rear foot pegs, mirrors, and swapping out for a lighter battery, what's the point?

I dont know if that's 6 or 10 lbs weight saving, but I can't certainly tell a difference in handling with that minor weight?

Saving weight seems like an all out goal or dont even bother?
Reducing weight results in better handling—whether is in racing or riding in the canyons. Its less mass to push around as you move the bike side to side and less mass for the brakes to slow down. It won't help in the realm of style points at the Starbucks tho—unless you slap the Shorai sticker on the fairings.

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Availability, dealer support, reputation.

I put one of these in my bikes soon after buying it. Noticed the weight savings immediately. Particularly when still and standing without my hands on the bars and gently rocking the bike between my legs. Since the battery is mid height, the lower center of gravity makes the savings slightly more pronounced when 4lbs vs the exhaust which is at the bottom of the bike and costs considerably more (save those with cored stock exhaust).

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i dont wanna be negative nancy, but have you all considered the firehazard?

i didnt care much before i watched one burn...now, no way im putting that in my baby.
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Availability, dealer support, reputation.
Hmm, i guess availability in the U.S. is probably the major contributing factor seeing as the forum member numbers are pretty heavily biased that way and Shorai is a U.S. company.
Not sure about reputation (Shorai have only been around for 5 years vs Magneti Marelli who have almost 100 years of history) although i have little doubt they make a good product.
But anyways, i think i have my answer.
I have to say though for my money (and alot less of it) i would go the Magneti Marelli route).
Thanks for the feedback guys.
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i dont wanna be negative nancy, but have you all considered the firehazard?

i didnt care much before i watched one burn...now, no way im putting that in my baby.
Please elaborate. I can provide sources, however it would require cross posting from another forum on this very topic, that suggest and support that the Lithium battery is far safer from both a burn and leak standpoint vs a traditional lead acid.

@MarkDucati - Didn't your OEM Yuasa start leaking???

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Just asking, but unless you're racing can you tell a difference in weight savings? I can see changing the rims out, but all I've done is remove the rear foot pegs, mirrors, and swapping out for a lighter battery, what's the point?

I dont know if that's 6 or 10 lbs weight saving, but I can't certainly tell a difference in handling with that minor weight?

Saving weight seems like an all out goal or dont even bother?

If you're looking for bang for the buck the battery is the first place to start.

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